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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Here’s a shout out to my FOAF sisters and brothers
(translated: greetings and salutations.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hopefully this message finds <span class=SpellE>danbri</span>
feeling better.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>In our efforts at developing a social networking tool around
FOAF – we’ve run into some basic needs – that we’d like
to formerly float by this group.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>We
realize that FOAF is <span class=SpellE>nto</span> intended for anything more than
‘loosely’ formed relationships, but a lot can be done with that!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>We’ve already gotten some initial feedback from some
of you – and we’d like to get as much of these
‘extensions’ proposals hashed out ASAP – so we can ‘do
our <span class=SpellE>thang</span>’.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Now that TypePad is in Beta and folks are starting to find
FOAF files on-line and <span class=SpellE>Technorati</span> has released
it’s ‘profiles’ which recognize FOAF – with each week,
I think you’ll find the # of people interested in FOAF will double (or
even more so….<span class=GramE>)<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>So</span> I don’t have to tell you that clarification, having
things written down and as many working examples available as possible –
are now crucial.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>And just to be clear – everything we’re doing we
wanna hand back to the community, so…….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in' start=1 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list .5in'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Our
project is code-named <span class=SpellE>FOAFster</span> – but
apparently there’s a Mr. Dan <span class=SpellE>Brickley</span> from
<span class=SpellE>bloodey</span> </span></font><st1:City><st1:place><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Bristol</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> who
has that domain name.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span></span></font><font
size=2 face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;
mso-ascii-font-family:Arial;mso-hansi-font-family:Arial;mso-bidi-font-family:
Arial;mso-char-type:symbol;mso-symbol-font-family:Wingdings'><span
style='mso-char-type:symbol;mso-symbol-font-family:Wingdings'>J</span></span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>So we’ll either have to
change the name, buy the name off of <span class=SpellE>danbri</span> or
just give him the code and have HIM <span class=SpellE>bloodey</span> run
it.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>We’re open to any
option or suggestion.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span></span></font><font
size=2 face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;
mso-ascii-font-family:Arial;mso-hansi-font-family:Arial;mso-bidi-font-family:
Arial;mso-char-type:symbol;mso-symbol-font-family:Wingdings'><span
style='mso-char-type:symbol;mso-symbol-font-family:Wingdings'>J</span></span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in' start=2 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list .5in'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We’re
planning on going beyond just making friends.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>We wanna help make all sorts of
relationships, but ONLY friends need to be ‘verifiable’.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>So to that ends – our social
networking code will do <span class=GramE>an email</span> verification if
someone wants to declare someone as ‘their friend’.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But we won’t require this
email verification process if they want to declare that: <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-tab-count:2'> </span>-
<span class=GramE>they</span> are acquainted with somebody<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-tab-count:2'> </span>-
<span class=GramE>they</span> know somebody by reputation<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-tab-count:2'> </span>-
<span class=GramE>they</span> know somebody in passing<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-tab-count:2'> </span>-
<span class=GramE>or</span> that they don’t know somebody, but wish to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>So we’d like to formerly float
these ‘relationships’ as ‘standards’.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I know there are a bunch of blood and
family-type of relationships in FOAF tools, but quite frankly we don’t
think those <span class=GramE>are that</span> important right now.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I guess <span class=GramE>an email</span>
verification for a ‘relative’ might be in order.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>So what we’d like to do is
formerly extend the vocabulary used for the ‘second part of the
triple’ (or whatever it’s called<span class=GramE>)<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>–</span> when it comes to friends
links.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I’m not sure how you
refer to these ‘relationship types’ and we’ve seen a bunch of
different types around – but that list is really incomplete and as much
as I love my relatives, they’re not really doing much semantic web
research right now.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>So that’s
our formal proposal #1 – a standard vocabulary for the types of relationships
we’re talking about.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>This
list would be (by no means) an exclusive list, just a few set in stone.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Anyway this kind of brings us along
to the next big issue.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in' start=3 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list .5in'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I have
seen folks agree that a sub-set frozen spec for FOAF is in order –
round about now.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I also seem
to recall that <span class=SpellE>danbri</span> agreed and said that some
formal ‘process’ would be put into place with clear
documentation.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>What’s
the status of that?<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Can we
assume (default) that this <a href="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/"><font
color=black><span style='color:windowtext'>http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/</span></font></a>
is where the ‘formal specs will reside?<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>And that version numbering /0.2/,
/0.3/, /0.4/ will walk its way up until the golden moment of a v 1.0? <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-tab-count:1'> </span>Whatever
the process of deciding WHAT those specs are – it would be nice to rely
upon one place where the formal spec resides.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-tab-count:1'> </span>Which
then brings us to the daunting question: who gets to decide and who has the
final word – on the spec.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>We
refer to these people as ‘The FOAF gods’ <span style='mso-tab-count:
1'> </span>and
whoever they are – we <span style='mso-tab-count:1'> </span>wish
them plenty of luck, expediency and sound <span class=SpellE>Solomonian</span> wisdom.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in' start=4 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list .5in'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>There
are apparently two different ways to represent friends of friends.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>One seems to be the
‘RDF’ way – which declares a <span class=SpellE>rdf<span
class=GramE>:resource</span></span>="<span class=SpellE>marccanter</span>",
and then uses that syntax to refer to friends while the other more <span
class=SpellE>FOAFy</span> approach – seems to be to just declare
<person><knows><name>Marc</name></knows></Person>.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Can we assume that this duality
approach will continue?<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Are
there any ideas or effort being put into reducing this to one
technique?<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>And please (oh lord
of technology) don’t come up with a third or more ways of
representing friends!<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span></span></font><font
size=2 face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;
mso-ascii-font-family:Arial;mso-hansi-font-family:Arial;mso-bidi-font-family:
Arial;mso-char-type:symbol;mso-symbol-font-family:Wingdings'><span
style='mso-char-type:symbol;mso-symbol-font-family:Wingdings'>J</span></span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-tab-count:1'> </span>You
see – we’re just humble software guys – trying to create a
parser/interpreter and it’s nice to know these things.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-tab-count:1'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in' start=5 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list .5in'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We’ve
also already asked about groups or people.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>We’re going to wait till we
get a better idea of how to do this fundamental extension and float it by
you folks.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Any suggestions or
feedback is welcome now. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Needless to say it’s pretty
important.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in' start=6 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list .5in'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We
really like the idea of people posting testimonials about other
people.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>We think that’s
the sort of simple, short content that can/should get built into the FOAF
file itself.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Any thoughts on
how to do this – without pissing people off?<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>We’re carefully tip toeing
here! <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in' start=7 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list .5in'><span
class=SpellE><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>TypePad’s</span></font></span><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> usage of FOAF
as a <span class=SpellE>blogroll</span> is cool, but we’d like to go
further and embed a ‘<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>T</span></font>opic
roll’ which would keep track of the specific keywords/phrases that
someone is closely related to/interested in.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Any ideas on this?<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Is this tangential to FOAF and part
of some other .<span class=SpellE>rdf</span> schema I don’t know
about?<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Matt and Paolo’s
ENT is one namespace extension technique now being utilized.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Mr. Hammersley seems to like it.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>So what about a <span class=SpellE>TopicRoll</span>
for each person? <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in' start=8 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list .5in'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Congrats
on the launch of the FOAF-project site – even if it is
‘just’ an HTML page.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>Worse things could happen. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-tab-count:1'> </span>Requests
for the site:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-tab-count:1'> </span>-
<span class=GramE>we</span> like articles that are hybrid tools/technology, <span
class=SpellE>FAQs</span>, plain, well written descriptive text and specs
– to boot.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>So more pages like
FOAF-a-<span class=SpellE>matic</span>!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-tab-count:1'> </span>-
<span class=GramE>we’d</span> like to see an ‘intro’ article
– that was more recent.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>The
current Intro is 13 months old.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-tab-count:1'> </span>-
<span class=GramE>we’d</span> like to see FOAF tools
(http://xml.mfd-consult.dk/foaf/ ) plugged as much as FOAF-a-<span
class=SpellE>matic</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-tab-count:1'> </span>-
<span class=GramE>but</span> good start – keep going….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Anyway – that’s what’s up…….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>- Marc Canter<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>415-296-9401 – if anybody wants to call me up and yell
at me…… or laud me….. or hand me huge research grants…….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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