[xml-h] How semantic are links?
ian at hixie.ch
Sun Jan 19 22:45:46 GMT 2003
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, Norman Walsh wrote:
> Ok, now the question is, in your mind, are the links in your
> documents more like elements and attributes, things that are "baked
> in" semantics, or are they more like style?
A bit of both.
Let me quickly introduce myself: I'm an invited member of the CSS
working group and I've been involved with Mozilla's standards
compliance QA for around four years. I haven't studied linking theory,
or any other theory for that matter (I studied Physics). My experience
is based entirely on practical experience developing a Web browser and
writing stylesheet specifications.
As far as I can tell, there are two main ways of classifying a simple
1. Whether the linked resource is an intrinsic part of the document.
This is the difference between an <a href=""> link, and an <img
src=""> link (the former is a hyperlink, the second is a link to
an external resource that is an intrinsic part of the document).
If you want to make a complete copy of a document, then you will
want to copy all the resources that are intrinsic parts of the
document, but none of the other resources to which the document
2. The intended use of the resources: as a separate resource (another
document, an image, a sound file), or a resource that augments the
current resouce (a stylesheet, a script, an icon, a
In the case of a separate resource, the link can be further
labelled: Is the resource the logical next resource in the overall
site, is it a glossary, or a resource to use when providing
feedback, is it a pingback server , a link that represents the
canonical URI for a resource ("permalink"), etc.
Note that the above says nothing about how the link should _behave_.
That is the realm of stylesheets, transformations, or behaviours built
in to the UAs.
For example, a link to a separate resource may be rendered inline, as
in an <iframe> element. Or it could be simply represented by blue
underlined text which, when clicked or otherwise activated, causes the
UA to replace the current resource with the linked resource.
Similarly, an embedded resource could be represented as either of
those presentations, or it could be rendered as a footnote, or a popup
window activated when the page first loaded.
The important point is that presentation and behaviour are independant
of whether the linked resource is a part of the current one or not.
Of course, in addition to one-to-one links embedded in the content, we
also have forms, one-to-many links, image maps, and external link
bases. All of these are, in my opinion, exciting concepts.
* Forms are a complicated matter. The HLink  specification
attempts to address these but in my opinion this is better left to
form-related specifications, as the problem easily doubles in
complexity once forms are introduced.
* One-to-many links are, as far as I can tell, effectively many
one-to-one links originating from the same source. As such, I don't
think they need special treatement at layers below the presentation
layer. In fact, Bob DuCharme showed this quite well : if you
look at his content, it is merely a set of one-to-one links
embedded in a container that a transformation or binding  layer
can turn into a clean user interface.
Note that one-to-many links are commonly used on the Web, although
typically by overloading the <select> element .
* For an image map, you have a many-to-one link with coordinates and
an embedded resource on which to base the coordinates.
* External link bases are significantly less common than the other
three, but are still an interesting technology. At the simplest
level, they are identical to normal inline one-to-one links, but
with a "source" URI given in addition to the target URI and
metadata listed above.
Down at the XML level, if we're considering how to give XML UAs
information on what elements and attributes represent links, then
taking the above into account there are several features and
requirements that come to mind:
* It is important that a single element be able to link to more than
one resource. Not simply for many-to-one links, but also to support
languages with elements that contain links to multiple related
resources, for example
Here we have three links to resources that are intrinsic parts of
the documents (the image itself, a thumbnail version of the image,
and a description of the image), and two links to external
resources (one to the site from whence the image came, and one to
the site that the image represents).
This, I believe, is the main problem with XLink  and SkunkLink
: They do not give a way for attributes to be labelled as
particular types of links, instead introducing their own elements
and thus limiting linking to one (for XLink) or one of each (for
SkunkLink) per element.
* It is also important that it be possible to associate each
attribute with another attribute that indicates the role of the
link (much like the "rel" attribute is for the "href" attribute in
HTML). Similarly, we need "shape" and "coord" equivalents.
The roles are varied -- the current set of roles given for the HTML
"rel" attribute needs extending.
* However, it is important that we not state, at the markup level,
what presentation is expected. This is something that XLink and
HLink both get wrong, in my opinion.
It would be nice to see a language, at the schema level, like XLink,
HLink, or SkunkLink, that addressed these issues. So far, none of the
solutions have hit what is, in my opinion, the set of requirements for
links in XML.
-- Footnotes --
 Pingback server: A server which accepts notifications that another
resource has linked to this one.
 HLink: Link recognition for the XHTML Family
 "1-to-many HTML links, prototyped", Bob DuCharme
 Binding layer: An extension to the presentation layer that allows
dynamic behaviours (event handlers, etc) to be bound to parts of the
document. HTCs and XBLs are binding layer technologies.
 Examples abound, for example on ABC.com, at the top right, next to
the FIND button, there is a drop down list which acts as a primitive
 XLink: XML Linking Language
 SkunkLink: A Common Ground for XML Linking
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