From bobdc at snee.com  Wed Mar  5 23:25:53 2003
From: bobdc at snee.com (Bob DuCharme)
Date: Thu Mar  6 04:26:13 2003
Subject: [xml-h] backlinking code, sort of
Message-ID: <3E66CDD1.9060903@snee.com>

I just figured out a neat trick. You know how a key complaint of Old 
Hypertext Guys about the web is that the links should be bidirectional? 
Of course, two pairs of <a href="" name=""></a> elements would do it, 
but here's a sort-of 1-to-many indirect backlink: paste the following 
onto a page that you know is the destination of some links:

<a 
href="javascript:window.location='http://www.google.com/search?as_lq=' + 
window.location.href">Backlink</a>

It triggers a Google search for pages that link to the page with that 
link. I was hoping to add some parameter equivalent of their "I'm 
Feeling Lucky" option so that clicking the link would take you directly 
to the top Google-ranked page links to the page with the above a 
element, but couldn't figure it out. I did, though, find this cool 
reference to Google parameters: 
http://cpsearch.calpoly.edu/helpdocs/dev_assistance.html#request_parameters

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From Nik.Barron at pennantplc.co.uk  Thu Mar  6 08:16:55 2003
From: Nik.Barron at pennantplc.co.uk (Nik Barron)
Date: Thu Mar  6 08:17:12 2003
Subject: [xml-h] backlinking code, sort of
Message-ID: <F17550784FF9D111B7F100E02921B247A3973E@nt-soton-001>

> I just figured out a neat trick. You know how a key complaint of Old 
> Hypertext Guys about the web is that the links should be 
> bidirectional? 

Well, as a young-ish old hypertext guy... :-)

That's a nice hack, but there are a couple of limitations:

1. It assumes that the system has access to the web and is known to Google.
Not much use in private hypertext systems (safety critical or security
sensitive docs for example).

2. It doesn't really give you a "real" bidirectional link, more of a
"shotgun" back link, which may not be what you want (depends on the scenario
of course).

Still, neat idea that I'm sure will come in useful for a lot of people!

Nik

From bobdc at snee.com  Tue Mar 11 08:44:22 2003
From: bobdc at snee.com (Bob DuCharme)
Date: Tue Mar 11 13:44:40 2003
Subject: [xml-h] prototyping 1-to-many links
Message-ID: <3E6DE836.8040500@snee.com>

Those of you who haven't seen it may want to check out  something I did 
at XML.com called "Prototyping One-to-many links with XSLT" 
(http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/05/tr.html). To quote the last paragraph,

"How do you think one-to-many links should be represented? What's your 
favorite code for implementing them? Try using XSLT to convert your 
fantasy link markup to your favorite JavaScript (or ASP, or...) UI 
tricks, and then let me and everyone else on the  xml-hypertext mailing 
list (http://lists.usefulinc.com/mailman/listinfo/xml-hypertext) know 
how it goes. Maybe your prototype will convince the folks behind 
Mozilla, Internet Explorer, and Opera that they should implement your 
linking architecture natively."

Bob



From simonstl at simonstl.com  Tue Mar 25 11:18:06 2003
From: simonstl at simonstl.com (Simon St.Laurent)
Date: Tue Mar 25 16:16:47 2003
Subject: [xml-h] XPointer RECs
Message-ID: <r01050400-1024-5CB88B165EDD11D7B8F80003937A08C2@[192.168.124.11]>

The W3C has published the XPointer Framework, XPointer element() Scheme,
and XPointer xmlns() Scheme as W3C Recommendations:

http://www.w3.org/TR/

>From the Framework:
"This specification defines the XML Pointer Language (XPointer)
Framework, an extensible system for XML addressing that underlies
additional XPointer scheme specifications. The framework is intended to
be used as a basis for fragment identifiers for any resource whose
Internet media type is one of text/xml, application/xml,
text/xml-external-parsed-entity, or
application/xml-external-parsed-entity. Other XML-based media types are
also encouraged to use this framework in defining their own fragment
identifier languages."

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